Dan Pfeiffer

And he wanted to sit down and talk about it.

And that was the first – like I almost fell out of my chair.

Yeah.

Because I was surprised by it.

But why that matters – and then you had Cheney for eight years who was never running president.

So we haven't had a presidential candidate in waiting in the vice president's office since Al Gore.

And having to balance that loyalty to the president with their future political ambitions.

And so we're seeing that.

I think he's handling this incredibly poorly.

And it just shows a very simplistic view of politics.

Just imagine the world where J.D.

Vance is running in the Republican primary.

So Donald Trump serves his full term, doesn't go to prison.

J.D.

Vance is running.

Other people will run, right?

And the most likely candidate who is not J.D.

Vance is someone who is running against Trump, either from the right or the left, or maybe both.

And so J.D.

Vance wins by being the Trump candidate, not by splitting the difference between the Trump candidate and the non-Trump candidate.