Dan Pfeiffer

She's not going to all these cattle call events like Al Sharpton's National Action Network and some of these other big events.

I've not heard of her meeting with donors, hiring staff, talking to people.

The people who are running...

they're calling other people and they're making sure they know they might be running and, you know, and trying to persuade those people.

We hear from some of them.

Um, but I, so it's not surprising.

One thing that I think is, I did occur to me when I read this is with Greg, it was presuming Gretchen Whitmer does not run.

There are really only two other women who were thinking of running and that's Kamala Harris and AOC.

Oh yeah.

I was going to say AOC and who else?

Oh, right.

Kamala Harris.

And neither of them, I think are, I think most people would say the odds are against both of them running.

So the point being is you could end up with an all-male feel, which would be kind of gross in 2028.

Yeah.

We were together in Boston.

Sigh.

That's the time of my life I don't really want to go back to.

I mean, I will say I maintain a deep well of anger at the Bidens, people around Joe Biden who helped keep him in the race, the people around Joe Biden who attacked everyone as basically traitors to the cause, who thought Joe Biden shouldn't run for president either before or after that debate.

That still makes me very mad.