Dan Pfeiffer

We're now in the middle of a war and a emerging global economic crisis because of said war.

And so you have a lot of expertise to bring to this.

And I want to have a conversation here that takes a little bit of a step back and looks at

Of course, what's happening in the world, but also your perspective on how Trump is selling this war.

But before we get to that, what's just your reaction to – what was your reaction when you woke up that Saturday morning to discover that we had gone to war with Iran?

Both your reaction as a person, an American, and a member of the media would have to cover said war.

We're now three weeks into the war.

Things seem to be getting worse, not better.

They are expanding, not contracting.

We seem to be further away from extricating ourselves than we were three weeks ago.

And as we sit here recording this on Friday morning, there is reporting that the White House is getting closer to using ground troops.

There are some White House aides quoted on background saying how ground troops have been used in every war.

Why wouldn't they be used here?

That it's not that big a deal.

Just help us understand both the substantive and political impact of putting ground troops either in Iran proper or in the islands like Karg Island in the middle of the Strait of Hormuz.

You have the mug to prove it.

So go for it.

Yeah, it's obviously no one voted for Donald Trump for the goal of going to war with Iran.

In fact, people probably voted for the if they if they voted on war at all, they voted for the opposite of that.

The thing is, that part is really interesting because you have the high profile people like Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson and Sean Ryan, who's the very prominent podcaster, the former Navy SEAL, who he put out an Instagram TikTok post about just running through the quotes of all the people who said this would not happen, J.D.