Dan Pfeiffer
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The second piece is the lying.
It's the biggest piece.
The lying is so crazy.
And I go back to the interview with you.
Which is, and you talked about this when we did the interview.
We talked about it since.
I just want everyone to fully understand.
We did not seek out Ken Martin for the purpose of talking to him about the autopsy.
We had no interest in talking to Ken Martin about the autopsy.
He complained to you about tweets sent by someone who's not you.
And then he came up to you at the Grindr party.
and expressed his dismay.
You can talk about how he expressed it.
And so the response was that he would come on the podcast and discuss it.
He sought out the opportunity to do it to continue to push the lie.
Because the argument that they were making, Kenneth Martin had two points in this about the autopsy.
It was helpful.
It has informed our playbook.
He said the word playbook 10,000 times in that interview.