Dan Pfeiffer

And there's one right as we started recording, of course.

Of course, our old friend Travis Helwig, who used to work here, sent it to me.

And it's just the sugar daddy standing next to her with a little sign that says, she's horny.

Again, fine.

But if you're deputy secretary for counterterrorism at the Department of Homeland Security, maybe less fine.

Well, it's not corruption necessarily.

It's just it's a risk.

Oh, I guess, yeah.

But the reason that a normal FBI cares about all of this, the reason they all did interviews with all of us before our security clearance, stuff like that, is the idea is that if you have lied to the FBI or you have secrets that you haven't revealed or some foreign actor or someone can blackmail you and say, if you don't do this for me, I will reveal publicly what I know about you that you...

go on this website whatever then you are more likely to do the thing that the foreign government or actor wants you to do that's the whole that's the whole reason anyway um that's that that's that dan sugar daddies for dessert sugar daddies for dessert that's what we got for today all right when we come back uh we will talk to the atlantic's mark leibovich about the shit show in california

Mark Leibovich, welcome to the pod.

That was unintentional, unfortunately.

It's fine.

It's all right.

Just don't make... No, I won't say it.

I won't say it.

um so you visited uh our fair state to report on what you and uh mike murphy uh lovingly referred to as the stupid circus aka the california governor's race well i guess i guess i kind of yeah which i love mechanism i think that's a good mechanism take the quote from it yeah um you start the piece at a little league game with eric swalwell and

Which, you know, quote, felt consistent with the wholesome image that the campaign had been straining to project of late for reasons that would become clear soon enough.

I just made me laugh out loud.

Did you get any bad vibes from your conversation with him?