Dan Richards

It's like, no, no, no, no, I've researched this and I know better.

And he was just knee-jerking straight into thousands of years.

And when you pressed him, he's like, well, I don't know for sure.

Yeah, it's really basic if you think about it.

I mean, if it stays on the plant after it's ripe, it's just sitting there waiting for the first thing to come along and eat it.

Yes, wild rice.

particularly with wild rice, yes.

That one, it looks like out of any of them, if there's a possibility that one was domesticated and then went back to the wild and then was domesticated again, it would be rice.

That shows multiple types.

There's different ways the seeds can break off, right?

They can break in different points of the plant or they can just fall straight out.

And rice shows numerous paths there where wheat only has one genetic pathway to that seed shatter where the seed falls off.

So it gets pretty complicated, but rice does...

Rice does have a lot of genetic possibilities for that.

Now, I'm not a geneticist, so I'm sure that somebody's going to come and, you know, say this is pseudo crap.

But ultimately, at the end of the day, Flint was treating it as a debate, whereas you and Graham were both trying to sift to the truth.

And that's why he was not going to give Graham one little corner, one little shred of possibility of being right anywhere.

When in reality, it's a lot of just like everything else in life.

It's a lot of gray.

There's a number of things, too.