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Dan Wang

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And shortly after that, the Communist Party smashed Ant Financial and prevented it from going public, which is still the case today.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Ant Financial is still not public.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And shortly after that, the Communist Party started taking the scalps of companies that didn't include only Alibaba, but also online education, e-commerce, antitrust actions against the entire sector.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

So that part is real as well.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And then there's a third component of all of these risks that I think investors have a hard time putting to bed, which is the suite of geopolitical issues that are particular to China.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

American investors aren't even buying Alibaba directly.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

It is buying from a Cayman Island entity that has contractual relationships with ByteDance.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And are we really sure that we're getting something real here?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

It's hard to lay that fear to bed.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

China has capital controls, and that has deterred a lot of investment, including portfolio flows from a lot of investors.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And probably the biggest geopolitical puzzle for a lot of people is that Beijing is very clear that it intends to seize the island nation of Taiwan one day.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

If it does so, it is pretty likely that it will face very hard sanctions from especially the U.S.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

government as well as probably all Western governments.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

We saw what happened.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

In 2021, when Russia decided to move on Ukraine, a lot of the central bank reserves in Russia were frozen.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

American portfolio managers were no longer able to invest in Russia.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And even McDonald's Corporation had to leave Russia because of American sanctions.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Can anyone really be sure that a few years from now, sometimes some people feel like even a few months from now, Beijing is going to initiate some sort of action against Taiwan?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

This is not really my expectation that they will do something, but none of us can be sure that they won't do something.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And so long as that fear is present, I think that goes some length to explaining why it becomes pretty unappetizing.