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Dan Wang

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
823 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

I forget something related to switchboards.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

It's something that Huawei started on until it is now a company that makes 5G equipment, that makes all of these mobile stations, that makes a lot of mobile handsets, and kind of a million and one things.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And according to parts of Washington, D.C., it also has a really

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

close relationship with the People's Liberation Army and making some sensitive military goods for them as well.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

But there's a lot of these Chinese companies that decide, why not?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Let's just be vertically integrated.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

We're not only going to make all of our electric vehicles, we're also going to make the batteries, and we're also going to make some of the chips that are powering the vehicles as well.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And there is this element of vertical integration in which, to go back to one of our earlier points, I also want to set up a contrast between two of America's handset companies.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

First, let's compare Apple.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

What is the valuation of Apple now?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

It's about $3, $4 trillion with Xiaomi, whose market cap is, I don't know, not more than one-tenth of Apple's valuation, probably not even one-twentieth Apple's valuation.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Apple has been famously working on a car for about 10 years named Project Titan until it decided to throw in the towel a couple of years ago.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Xiaomi, which let's say is worth $120 at the level of Apple, which is mostly a handset maker as well as a maker of rice cookers and fans and all sorts of other household consumer electronic goods.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

The CEO of Xiaomi declared in 2021 that

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

I'm going to invest $10 billion in making my car.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

This is going to be my focus.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

This is going to be my last great entrepreneurial venture.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And what happened afterwards?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Again, Apple threw in the towel and decided not to make any vehicles.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Xiaomi's first electric SUVs are now on the streets in China.