Dan Wiederer

So yeah, we'll go to Ben next and, and look like we understand his understanding of what this city is and what it can be.

And so he offered up at his breakfast that, that, you know,

Some of the pats in the back that the coaches and the players are getting out in the public for the dream 2025 season that they put together are nice and all, but he's kind of over it.

And so we kind of went back and forth on – Ben recently has been at the United Center for Blackhawks and Bulls games.

He's gone to Wrigley for the Cubs game.

And so you get out in public a little bit, and you feel that love a little bit more than you do when you're inside the coaching silo during the season.

And so just kind of trying to react to his –

reaction to the reaction, if that makes sense and how that's resonating with them.

Here's Ben Johnson on that topic.

Are you averse to that when you're making the rounds and you're going to these other games and you're getting a little bit of fanfare?

How does it resonate with you, knowing how you're wired?

What's been the most notable thing for you out in public of feeling the love that you probably didn't feel inside the season because you're so silent?

One of the things you said last year at this time was recognizing the sleeping giant that you were walking into.

You got a lot to think about though, Ben.

Don't be thick.

Don't be getting chills, man.

That is over.

Good, better, best.

No more of that stuff.

A lot of great layers to that.