Dan Wiederer

What did he talk about?

Tell our audience what he discussed and lead us into that particular audio here on TTN.

Yeah, so there's always two breakfasts at the owners' meetings, one for the NFC coaches, one for the AFC coaches.

Obviously, on NFC Day, you plant yourself by Ben Johnson and you don't leave that table.

You're able to bounce around during the AFC breakfast, and Robert Sala didn't have a very large crowd at his table.

He was the 49ers defensive coordinator last year.

That put him in position to have a really good view of that Week 17 game against the Bears that was a Sunday night classic, an absolute shootout that came down to the final play.

The Bears ended up

stalling out there right inside the five I believe on the last play where they didn't get a a proper play off and and lost the game but Robert Salas saw Caleb Williams at his best the 330 yard night two touchdowns you remember that game and just how much of a pinball machine scoring game it was uh and so we had an opportunity to to visit with him a little bit about uh

defending caleb williams is in the challenges that he experienced as an opposing defensive play caller going up against ben and caleb here's a little bit of what robert sella had to say um caleb i thought ben ben did such a nice job with caleb this year and that entire offense um

God, that's good, man.

I love, love that last part right there.

Talking about having to defend two different things, the scheme and then Caleb, which Ben Johnson has admitted at times bailed his ass out.

Sometimes when he didn't think he had the proper call, Caleb made a play out of something that Ben Johnson put in and maybe was a failed play call.

It marries up with something you and I were talking about earlier in the week, that if the Bears could even go to another level with their scramble drill, with that second play that defenses have to defend, the exhaustion that is going to cause for opposing defenses is second to none.

And so you listen to a coach there with very genuine admiration, not only for Caleb, but for what Ben is able to do with Caleb.

And then again, what you just touched on, that idea that

every single down has doubled the responsibility because you're trying to, to, to, you know, anticipate what's going to be run and defend what's being run.

And then all of a sudden the play goes into a different mode and you've got to find a way to figure out how to slow that down.

And so that's,