Dan Wiederer

And, you know, you're part of that environment and you're like, oh, you know, he said like it took him halfway through the year before he realized what people meant when they said this is a Bears town.

And then and then he's sitting there with chills on his arms.

Right.

Like in a in a conference room in Phoenix in March, because he understands what this means to this city and that he can be a big part of enlivening all of that.

One other thing I want to bring up, and maybe this is like a bigger discussion, but this is probably a good time to bring it up.

Do you ever think about Ben Johnson now relative to what he would be like, let's say, if he makes it to his eighth year as the Bears head coach?

And can he maintain this level of wiredness that he is at now?

Do I ever think about it?

Yeah.

And I wonder how much Ben thinks about it, because you do wonder.

It looked like Kalief Raymond came in being introduced as a free agent a few weeks back and was like talking about how he has had this experience with Ben where he's like, all right, you know, you can go home now and you can go, you know, say hello to your wife and kids and like that.

but again that desire to achieve creates this drive and like ben's gonna have to figure out how to navigate that it's gonna be time allocation it's gonna be um you know just just kind of time management and and then really kind of i guess intensity management over time to realize that there isn't an infinite amount of human energy as much as you want there to be and so how does that fatigue you and how does that uh keep you from getting better and being at your best see what i did there

Very good.

Yes.

And it still remains.

But I do think about that because, you know, look like I'm knocking on the door 50.

I know I don't have the same fuel tank that I once did.

Ben's I think he's 40 now, 40, 41.

You're going to you're going to have to figure out how to navigate that as well.

Yeah.