Dana Taylor

You start Original Sins sharing your argument on the purpose of schools, which you say isn't only to educate. Tell me about that.

You start Original Sins sharing your argument on the purpose of schools, which you say isn't only to educate. Tell me about that.

You point to two, and I think this is what you were referring to, original sins that our education system refuses to address. How do American schools today deal with each of these issues?

You point to two, and I think this is what you were referring to, original sins that our education system refuses to address. How do American schools today deal with each of these issues?

Thomas Jefferson, a founding father, is ennobled in U.S. history books. You present two key interventions he pushed forward that you write, quote, laid the groundwork for anti-Black and anti-Native ways of viewing the world, both inside schools and beyond their corridors, unquote. What are they and have they persisted in curricula today?

Thomas Jefferson, a founding father, is ennobled in U.S. history books. You present two key interventions he pushed forward that you write, quote, laid the groundwork for anti-Black and anti-Native ways of viewing the world, both inside schools and beyond their corridors, unquote. What are they and have they persisted in curricula today?

You write that there are three pillars of racism introduced in schools. Tell me about them.

You write that there are three pillars of racism introduced in schools. Tell me about them.

You delve into the history of standardized testing. How do you believe it connects to this concept of racial intellectual inferiority?

You delve into the history of standardized testing. How do you believe it connects to this concept of racial intellectual inferiority?

Let's talk about the policing and sentencing disparities that exist for Black and Native people. How do you believe the foundation of unequal constructs laid out in school shows up in the criminal justice system?

Let's talk about the policing and sentencing disparities that exist for Black and Native people. How do you believe the foundation of unequal constructs laid out in school shows up in the criminal justice system?

You talk about demographics in the teaching staffs of schools and introduce a term other scholars call the white lady bountiful. Can you expound on that?

You talk about demographics in the teaching staffs of schools and introduce a term other scholars call the white lady bountiful. Can you expound on that?

Eve, what do you hope to achieve in writing this book? What do you want your readers to walk away from this book understanding?

Eve, what do you hope to achieve in writing this book? What do you want your readers to walk away from this book understanding?

Eve's new book, Original Sins, The Miseducation of Black and Native Children and the Construction of American Racism is out now. Eve, thank you so much for being on the excerpt.

Eve's new book, Original Sins, The Miseducation of Black and Native Children and the Construction of American Racism is out now. Eve, thank you so much for being on the excerpt.

Thanks to our senior producers, Shannon Marie Green and Kaylee Monahan, for their production assistance, our executive producers, Laura Beatty. Let us know what you think of this episode by sending a note to podcasts at usatoday.com. Thanks for listening. I'm Dana Taylor. Taylor Wilson will be back tomorrow morning with another episode of The Excerpt.

Thanks to our senior producers, Shannon Marie Green and Kaylee Monahan, for their production assistance, our executive producers, Laura Beatty. Let us know what you think of this episode by sending a note to podcasts at usatoday.com. Thanks for listening. I'm Dana Taylor. Taylor Wilson will be back tomorrow morning with another episode of The Excerpt.