Dandapani

Yes.

Yes.

I think that's a great context for it. I'm glad you brought that up because that is a great way to think about it as well, which kind of takes the metaphor of the pinball and puts it into a framework that people can understand. So I'll have to think about combining that in the future. So thank you for that thought.

I think that's a great context for it. I'm glad you brought that up because that is a great way to think about it as well, which kind of takes the metaphor of the pinball and puts it into a framework that people can understand. So I'll have to think about combining that in the future. So thank you for that thought.

I think that's a great context for it. I'm glad you brought that up because that is a great way to think about it as well, which kind of takes the metaphor of the pinball and puts it into a framework that people can understand. So I'll have to think about combining that in the future. So thank you for that thought.

Absolutely. And I was going to go into Master Shantidava's teachings anyhow, so I'm glad you took us there. I really thought it was interesting how you started the book by examining his life from eight centuries ago and how he is amongst his peers and his peers look to him as being lazy, as not pulling his load. And so they create a test for him.

Absolutely. And I was going to go into Master Shantidava's teachings anyhow, so I'm glad you took us there. I really thought it was interesting how you started the book by examining his life from eight centuries ago and how he is amongst his peers and his peers look to him as being lazy, as not pulling his load. And so they create a test for him.

Absolutely. And I was going to go into Master Shantidava's teachings anyhow, so I'm glad you took us there. I really thought it was interesting how you started the book by examining his life from eight centuries ago and how he is amongst his peers and his peers look to him as being lazy, as not pulling his load. And so they create a test for him.

And I was hoping maybe you could pick up the story of what that test was and what has been written about how he handled that test.

And I was hoping maybe you could pick up the story of what that test was and what has been written about how he handled that test.

And I was hoping maybe you could pick up the story of what that test was and what has been written about how he handled that test.

Well, isn't that like so many stories of famous teachers that you hear is they have cultivated this internally until the moment comes when they start to share it. And then when they do share it, it's shared with such profound knowledge. And what was so interesting about this story is that they tried to trick him.

Well, isn't that like so many stories of famous teachers that you hear is they have cultivated this internally until the moment comes when they start to share it. And then when they do share it, it's shared with such profound knowledge. And what was so interesting about this story is that they tried to trick him.

Well, isn't that like so many stories of famous teachers that you hear is they have cultivated this internally until the moment comes when they start to share it. And then when they do share it, it's shared with such profound knowledge. And what was so interesting about this story is that they tried to trick him.

not only into what they thought was putting him into an uncomfortable situation, but forced to teach something that the planet had never heard of before. And then he does it so eloquently.

not only into what they thought was putting him into an uncomfortable situation, but forced to teach something that the planet had never heard of before. And then he does it so eloquently.

not only into what they thought was putting him into an uncomfortable situation, but forced to teach something that the planet had never heard of before. And then he does it so eloquently.

Bill Moyers?

Bill Moyers?

Bill Moyers?