Daniel Engber
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I thought, I can't believe this is really happening.
I thought, I can't believe this is really happening.
I thought, I can't believe this is really happening.
So I remember Trump had a meeting with RFK in early 2017. And RFK, do you remember, he came out of Trump Tower and he was like, I'm going to be the head of a new vaccine safety commission. And I and many other science journalists immediately got to work thinking about what will we do if that happens? And then it didn't happen.
So I remember Trump had a meeting with RFK in early 2017. And RFK, do you remember, he came out of Trump Tower and he was like, I'm going to be the head of a new vaccine safety commission. And I and many other science journalists immediately got to work thinking about what will we do if that happens? And then it didn't happen.
So I remember Trump had a meeting with RFK in early 2017. And RFK, do you remember, he came out of Trump Tower and he was like, I'm going to be the head of a new vaccine safety commission. And I and many other science journalists immediately got to work thinking about what will we do if that happens? And then it didn't happen.
Trump was just sort of toying with him as he toyed with Mitt Romney and many others. So in the back of my head, I kind of thought, well, maybe that's going to happen again. But it's different this time.
Trump was just sort of toying with him as he toyed with Mitt Romney and many others. So in the back of my head, I kind of thought, well, maybe that's going to happen again. But it's different this time.
Trump was just sort of toying with him as he toyed with Mitt Romney and many others. So in the back of my head, I kind of thought, well, maybe that's going to happen again. But it's different this time.
No. I mean, so RFK has been tapped for health and human services, but then there's a whole host of kind of contrarian characters in public health who are similarly being put up for important positions.
No. I mean, so RFK has been tapped for health and human services, but then there's a whole host of kind of contrarian characters in public health who are similarly being put up for important positions.
No. I mean, so RFK has been tapped for health and human services, but then there's a whole host of kind of contrarian characters in public health who are similarly being put up for important positions.
What all of these people seem to have in common, with the exception of Weldon maybe, is they were critics of the COVID response. But other than that, I mean, there are clear differences among these people, too. Some of them are, you know, very conventional thinkers on the value of vaccination. Others are really on the kind of anti-vaccine end of the spectrum.
What all of these people seem to have in common, with the exception of Weldon maybe, is they were critics of the COVID response. But other than that, I mean, there are clear differences among these people, too. Some of them are, you know, very conventional thinkers on the value of vaccination. Others are really on the kind of anti-vaccine end of the spectrum.
What all of these people seem to have in common, with the exception of Weldon maybe, is they were critics of the COVID response. But other than that, I mean, there are clear differences among these people, too. Some of them are, you know, very conventional thinkers on the value of vaccination. Others are really on the kind of anti-vaccine end of the spectrum.
Well, I think RFK is kind of like the king of the anti-vaxxers category.
Well, I think RFK is kind of like the king of the anti-vaxxers category.