Daniel James

That's obviously central to what he would think his appeal is.

This idea that he's a free speech martyr, the media won't let you hear.

But what's the reality of his legal history?

This is a man who has a long, long history with the law.

You know, assault convictions, fake passports, mortgage fraud, contempt of court.

He's been convicted over, and I think this is the most troubling part for someone who styles himself as a journalist.

He has convictions for stalking and harassing journalists.

So you want to know this, any journalist, I will find you.

Right?

There was a BBC documentary about him which he sort of discusses as sort of silencing him.

He produced a documentary called Silenced with InfoWars, Alex Jones.

Again, like sort of American conspiracy theorist.

And what can you tell us about the interview itself, Darnie?

Because they looked pretty chummy in the trailer tape and from what I saw.

What did they talk about and did Carl push back on any of Tommy's extremism?

No, not really, is the long and short of that.

It is, yeah, like a really, really chummy interview, Carl doesn't speak that much, which, again, to me, like, of itself is not necessarily a sort of journalistic issue.

But there are lots of points...

where Tommy Robinson quite rightly should be called out.

He talks about the only people he describes as having an issue with his kind of rhetoric are these jihadi gangs.