Daniel Khachab

100%. I think SaaS is that. It's great companies, at least from headcount perspective, get smaller and not bigger. I mean, you go in a different country fighting for talent. That to me is Cold War. In Europe today, we're not producing the chips. We're not producing the energy. We don't have the foundational layer models. Now, the real downside to me is that it's at 1 billion mark.

100%. I think SaaS is that. It's great companies, at least from headcount perspective, get smaller and not bigger. I mean, you go in a different country fighting for talent. That to me is Cold War. In Europe today, we're not producing the chips. We're not producing the energy. We don't have the foundational layer models. Now, the real downside to me is that it's at 1 billion mark.

100%. I think SaaS is that. It's great companies, at least from headcount perspective, get smaller and not bigger. I mean, you go in a different country fighting for talent. That to me is Cold War. In Europe today, we're not producing the chips. We're not producing the energy. We don't have the foundational layer models. Now, the real downside to me is that it's at 1 billion mark.

once we become unicorn and people think oh we've made it like who the fuck wants to be a rainbow colored pony like i don't want to be a unicorn we need more long-term commitment as well like we need founders to say i'm gonna invest invest 15 to 20 years i'm gonna commit this now the best years of my life to make this happen this is 20 vc with me harry stebbings and today we bring you the story of one of the hottest sass companies

once we become unicorn and people think oh we've made it like who the fuck wants to be a rainbow colored pony like i don't want to be a unicorn we need more long-term commitment as well like we need founders to say i'm gonna invest invest 15 to 20 years i'm gonna commit this now the best years of my life to make this happen this is 20 vc with me harry stebbings and today we bring you the story of one of the hottest sass companies

once we become unicorn and people think oh we've made it like who the fuck wants to be a rainbow colored pony like i don't want to be a unicorn we need more long-term commitment as well like we need founders to say i'm gonna invest invest 15 to 20 years i'm gonna commit this now the best years of my life to make this happen this is 20 vc with me harry stebbings and today we bring you the story of one of the hottest sass companies

Very likewise. Thank you for having me. Really looking forward to this.

Very likewise. Thank you for having me. Really looking forward to this.

Very likewise. Thank you for having me. Really looking forward to this.

I think what kind of gave the spark was just a couple of sleepless nights in a row. Because this new technology came out, GPT and I played around with it. And then at some point, I just couldn't sleep and was literally sitting on my couch in the dark, staring into nothing because I was like, man, this thing is going to learn how to code in no time.

I think what kind of gave the spark was just a couple of sleepless nights in a row. Because this new technology came out, GPT and I played around with it. And then at some point, I just couldn't sleep and was literally sitting on my couch in the dark, staring into nothing because I was like, man, this thing is going to learn how to code in no time.

I think what kind of gave the spark was just a couple of sleepless nights in a row. Because this new technology came out, GPT and I played around with it. And then at some point, I just couldn't sleep and was literally sitting on my couch in the dark, staring into nothing because I was like, man, this thing is going to learn how to code in no time.

Maybe not now, maybe not next year, maybe 27, maybe 28. Where's our...

Maybe not now, maybe not next year, maybe 27, maybe 28. Where's our...

Maybe not now, maybe not next year, maybe 27, maybe 28. Where's our...

technological mode is going to be it might just be gone like anyone maybe able to replicate what we have built over years within days and so i'm like wow that's gonna be a big shift in company building and how are we going to position ourselves to win in in such an environment and and while while i believe that there is some modes i think there were like three things that made us go i made us go i first and i think the first thing was

technological mode is going to be it might just be gone like anyone maybe able to replicate what we have built over years within days and so i'm like wow that's gonna be a big shift in company building and how are we going to position ourselves to win in in such an environment and and while while i believe that there is some modes i think there were like three things that made us go i made us go i first and i think the first thing was

technological mode is going to be it might just be gone like anyone maybe able to replicate what we have built over years within days and so i'm like wow that's gonna be a big shift in company building and how are we going to position ourselves to win in in such an environment and and while while i believe that there is some modes i think there were like three things that made us go i made us go i first and i think the first thing was

There's two scenarios that are going to happen. First scenario is someone is going to come, going to replicate our technology, do maybe things in a better way, create more user value, and it's going to disrupt us. Scenario two is actually us doing that, us disrupting ourselves and hopefully also our competition and so on. One of our core values is always play offense.

There's two scenarios that are going to happen. First scenario is someone is going to come, going to replicate our technology, do maybe things in a better way, create more user value, and it's going to disrupt us. Scenario two is actually us doing that, us disrupting ourselves and hopefully also our competition and so on. One of our core values is always play offense.