Daniel McConnell

They looked at, sorry, they were listed for a while, then delisted because they wanted that control to stay.

But I was just really interested and found him open and good value for money when he was talking about

the complexities of how they move stuff, you know, like you can move ships, but you can't move ports.

And why would they get into ports?

You know, is it a better business model for them?

Just all very, very fascinating.

And I thought for me, it's clear from an Irish perspective, they're committed to Ireland.

You know, they want to expand.

You know what I mean?

They're talking about, you know, congested, like I'm really interested in talking about congested Dublin port, all that kind of stuff.

And we forget, like it's not that long ago, I mean, in the teats of Brexit and we were talking about the fallout of Brexit, you know, like there was massive changes kind of, you know, coming for ships and companies like Senneline in terms of their relationship between Ireland and the UK.

We can't, from a historical perspective or a societal aspect, underestimate the importance of that Dublin-Hollyhead route.

I mean, that has huge connotations.

Like, I'm old enough to remember...

you know, flights were not that cheap.

The Ryanair revolution hadn't happened yet.

If you're going to the UK, you're going on the boat.

From, like, Stenline are a big client, big customer at Dublin Port.

And they're obviously, you know, their roots in and out of Dublin are very important, not just to Hottie Hill, but they go to Liverpool as well in terms of their freight.

Talk to me from your assessment of how successful that relationship is and kind of what is the potential to grow there?