Daniel P. Driscoll

They are in it until it's done, and they are not defining that moment of done yet because it's gotten so bad that I think a lot of the purpose of this is to wake Americans up and make them realize that they have incredible power in how they vote.

I think you made the reference, Sean, if you look at a lot of these cities, they keep voting in the same people.

And I think a lot of this is kind of the water getting turned up on the frog.

People don't realize you don't have to be afraid.

You don't have to accept that when you park your car on the street, it's going to get broken into.

You don't have to accept that your 12-year-old can't board a bus and go to the local convenience store and go to an arena to watch a sporting event and come back home.

Like, we as a nation can win this war.

and make ourselves safe again.

And so I think the answer for it is it will last as long as it takes under President Trump to return us to a place of less than average violence when compared to pure countries around the world.

Like when you talk to the local law enforcement, they've won the lottery.

They have signed up.

One of the amazing parts of being at ATF is I get to be around all these law enforcement and they desperately want to clean up their own communities.

This is empowering them with all of these new enablers that they just typically don't have.

And so I think it's less modeling good behavior for them and instead empowering them to do what they are so good at and want to do.

But they've just been under-resourced and under

underappreciated for so long.

Where did you grow up?

So I grew up in the mountains of North Carolina, a place called Boone, Appalachian States in my hometown.

Went to a public high school up there.

So it was about 400 kids a class.