Daniel P. Driscoll

and then one of the most effective things against that wired drone is a net gun which just absolutely blows my mind that we are back to net guns but it actually is working and so there's this balance between and this is kind of similar with the humvee and the isv and how we think of the equipment we give our soldiers we actually need a balance of digital tools and analog tools and a balance of

robots and humans and it is there is not going to be a one-size-fits-all solution for warfare but instead a training and a mentality and a model that we you are empowered to go figure out whatever you need go build it 3d print it wherever we send you in the world and go get on the objective and win

Was that the army?

Where the Ukrainians used their drones and took out, yep, so a couple months ago in Russia, it was.

So essentially, and I think the exact numbers are, Ukraine launched about $40,000 worth of drones

into Russia and took out perhaps up to $10 billion worth of equipment.

I mean, that should just absolutely and utterly blow people's minds when they think of the sheer scale that we think Russia created between three and four million drones last year.

China is up in the tens to 14 million drones created last year.

I mean, the number of these things that are existing in the world is just utterly staggering.

How was that planned?

Did you have any part in that?

So if we did, we wouldn't talk about it.

Okay.

But I think what is publicly available is the Ukrainians through all sorts of different means.

And you could let it go to your imagination how they did it, but it could be things like balloons.

It could be things like driving over the border.

It could be things, whatever the actual way of getting the thing into the country is.

Many and most countries have pretty big borders, and you just have to get a drone in, which is not particularly difficult, and get in some number of hundreds of those, and then give them an explosive, put them up in the air, have a first-person pilot fly it into a thing.

It's not a particularly technically challenging problem that led to an amazingly effective hit against Russia.

And one of the things we've talked about is if Ukraine is the Silicon Valley of war, and that's where the vast majority of innovation is coming, I mean, Russia is in that fight.