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Daniel Payne

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41 total appearances

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Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

So we know exactly what happened a month or two later.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

It's kind of hard to run a company

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

When the whole economy shuts down and discretionary spending comes to a halt.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

So, you know, that might be kind of unfair to judge Chapik on that.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

But there could be some nervousness with with investors by doing the same thing once again, putting the head of the experiences, which, again, is parks and cruise line and gaming ahead at the charge of the company.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

So there might be some hesitancy there.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

But I will say Disney over the past four years has nearly doubled their EPS, but yet the stock has been essentially flat.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

So we've had massive valuation contraction.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And if they get the right person in charge that can pull the various levers of this company,

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

We can have a premium brand once again trading at a premium valuation.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

So right now, the stock trades at roughly 17 times to 2026 earnings estimates, about 660.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

You know, if a market multiple is placed upon this premium brand, the stock could get into the mid 150s with pretty much ease.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And so that is significant upside potential if the right person can make the right decisions moving forward.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And that's the problem with that side of the business.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

There's significant operating leverage with the variable cost.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And you spend all that variable cost money up front and it's almost like you build it and you hope they show up.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And so if you get the formula right, you spend the money on the content and it's a success.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

then that significant leverage for the earnings growth of the company.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And that's kind of the factor that investors are weighing right now, especially with this change in leadership, because it just adds uncertainty to the stock.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

But, you know, once again, you know, uncertainty leads to opportunity and there are opportunities how you make money in the stock over a market cycle.