Daniel Yergin

We're in 2026 and it is still central oil.

It's not the large producer it was.

There was a day when Iran and Saudi Arabia vied with each other to be the biggest producer in OPEC, but its ability to influence what happens in the entire Gulf and to shut down the Gulf shows that it too has a form of mastery which it has exerted with drones and missiles.

Well, yeah.

Listen, I watched it, and there was that famous episode at the wind turbine where the hero got in an argument with a young lawyer from Houston.

Yeah, the woke lawyer.

That's right, about how everything, including everything she was wearing, was made an oil product.

And I thought that was really interesting.

But then I stopped watching it because the subplot got a little sidetracked.

But then I started watching it again.

So now I'm not up there with Joe, but I'm going to catch up with it because, you know, I've got to find out how the oil industry really works and what better way to learn that than by watching Landmen.

Would you put a recommendation to me?

I'd love to.

That would be great.

We're putting that into the world through this episode of Outlaw.

I'm all on board with it.

And if you could just make it happen.

I know your show is very influential, but this is going to demonstrate the true power of your show.

Thank you.

Great to be on with you both.