Daniel Yergin

You know, it's said that, you know, to be a fully trained lineman, you need seven years.

So, you know, you can see that this area of electricity is, pardon me for saying it, is hot.

That's right.

What you really realize is that hydrocarbons have been the fuel, the engine really of economic development.

People would still be in sailboats.

They would still spend six weeks crossing the Atlantic.

It would take weeks to go from one place to another.

That's a very interesting question to imagine our world without them.

Well, you were kind of gonna run out of whales basically.

And I love that, you know, that these kind of consultants, this professor at Yale did this experiment.

He needed some extra money and he did some studies that showed, well, actually this stuff called rock oil, you could turn it into a lighting fuel fluid.

and the risk taking of it.

But yeah, it's hard to, we wouldn't be where we are.

We wouldn't have the world today.

We wouldn't be a world of 8 billion people were it not for it.

Obviously there's gonna be change.

And I'd say right now, the incentives for innovation are there.

That's why we may see a runway of what's gonna come, but it may really come from the side.

Well, I think that's a question that I'd like to ask you, but, but it is a sense that we are at the beginning of something new and, um,

I remember when actually it was interesting, political leader in Central Asia saying, you know, AI is going to be the true source of power in the future.