Daniel

There we are. All right. Welcome, Joe. Thank you for coming on. So this is an independent reporter, Joe Brucker. So you were covering the entire trial. So let's get right to the most important thing. What was the moment like when the verdict came in? How did people react?

interruptions during it they had actually quieted down somewhat and so there was some expectations that it would be even louder how about could you see penny himself did he show any emotion you know obviously it was very viral and Rittenhouse started sobbing after the verdict but we couldn't see in New York's case

interruptions during it they had actually quieted down somewhat and so there was some expectations that it would be even louder how about could you see penny himself did he show any emotion you know obviously it was very viral and Rittenhouse started sobbing after the verdict but we couldn't see in New York's case

And you were also reporting on the like the chants, you know, the kind of the threatening protests outside of the courthouse. Could you really hear those? Do you think the jury could hear it 13 stories up?

And you were also reporting on the like the chants, you know, the kind of the threatening protests outside of the courthouse. Could you really hear those? Do you think the jury could hear it 13 stories up?

So my colleague Jack is saying from one of his – someone was saying there were threats from the Neely side inside the courtroom. Did you observe that?

So my colleague Jack is saying from one of his – someone was saying there were threats from the Neely side inside the courtroom. Did you observe that?

Oh my gosh, that's crazy. So were you speaking with other reporters? Was it a surprise the verdict came in the way it did this quickly after the drop charge last Friday? Was there a sentiment on how the jury was likely to go? Is this outcome expected or surprising?

Oh my gosh, that's crazy. So were you speaking with other reporters? Was it a surprise the verdict came in the way it did this quickly after the drop charge last Friday? Was there a sentiment on how the jury was likely to go? Is this outcome expected or surprising?

Daniel Penny has been acquitted. It's great news for pretty much all Americans, other than, I guess, people who want to terrorize innocent people on the subway. I want to play a clip that we have. This is the response of Jordan Neely's father to the news today. Let's play clip number 20.

Daniel Penny has been acquitted. It's great news for pretty much all Americans, other than, I guess, people who want to terrorize innocent people on the subway. I want to play a clip that we have. This is the response of Jordan Neely's father to the news today. Let's play clip number 20.

So it's that last line there that stands out. Let's do something about this. And I couldn't quite make it out, but I think you could hear some protest chants going on in the background as well. Do we still have Joe with us?

So it's that last line there that stands out. Let's do something about this. And I couldn't quite make it out, but I think you could hear some protest chants going on in the background as well. Do we still have Joe with us?

Yes.

Yes.

So I'm not sure if you could hear that, but we were just playing the clip of Jordan Neely's father saying, let's do something about this. So I was wondering, you know, we ran out of time there before the break. Could you expand a bit on the overall vibe? Did it feel menacing around the courthouse at all? Like there was a very strong cohort of people really braying for Daniel Penny's blood?

So I'm not sure if you could hear that, but we were just playing the clip of Jordan Neely's father saying, let's do something about this. So I was wondering, you know, we ran out of time there before the break. Could you expand a bit on the overall vibe? Did it feel menacing around the courthouse at all? Like there was a very strong cohort of people really braying for Daniel Penny's blood?

So looking back over the course of the trial, you were able to observe the jury. Obviously, there's also a lot of experts there. Do you have a sense maybe what proved decisive in Newsom being able to or Neely being able to win his freedom? Is there something that really affected people?

So looking back over the course of the trial, you were able to observe the jury. Obviously, there's also a lot of experts there. Do you have a sense maybe what proved decisive in Newsom being able to or Neely being able to win his freedom? Is there something that really affected people?

All right. I think we're just we're getting the clip here. Yeah, let's this is what you were just describing. I think let's play Hawk Newsome getting a little menacing after the announcement today. Let's play clip 21.