Daniel

it's been proven scientifically that the lack of sleep does have negative effects on the body and can alter your perception of the world around you.

Sleep is so important that when it gets affected, it just compounds every other thing going on with you.

Well, both, but the family first.

No, I don't think the family had any sort of ulterior motive to this.

I genuinely think they were experiencing something, something negative.

I don't know what it was.

It was obvious that Francis was uncomfortable in the house in the first place.

And then the children had some negative experiences.

So

I don't want to discount their experiences and their fear.

I don't think the family in general had any sort of, like I said, I don't think they have an ulterior motive to, you know, try and make a profit off of this.

Warren's, I'm always wary of them because, you know, of the controversies of their past experiences and the fact that, you know, they do have the highest grossing horror film franchise in the world.

Exactly.

I mean, the family didn't have a lot to gain from this.

I mean, there's not a lot of images of them.

Their names aren't really out there.

They didn't really benefit from it at all.

I don't see how they benefited from this whatsoever besides not experiencing this anymore.

So I believe the family, but as always, Ed and Lorraine Warren, I'm always skeptical of.

Exactly.