Daniel

And I like to assume that since they do profit off of licensing their stories that they do, maybe they aren't lying outright, but it does seem to me that they probably embellish a little bit just to sell it a bit.

I mean, your hormones go completely out of whack.

Your perception of time warps.

You start hearing things.

I personally, especially when I get really tired, I get auditory hallucinations, stuff like that.

Not to the degree of being a new parent.

I know that's a whole different ballgame, but...

it's been proven scientifically that the lack of sleep does have negative effects on the body and can alter your perception of the world around you.

Sleep is so important that when it gets affected, it just compounds every other thing going on with you.

Well, both, but the family first.

No, I don't think the family had any sort of ulterior motive to this.

I genuinely think they were experiencing something, something negative.

I don't know what it was.

It was obvious that Francis was uncomfortable in the house in the first place.

And then the children had some negative experiences.

So

I don't want to discount their experiences and their fear.

I don't think the family in general had any sort of, like I said, I don't think they have an ulterior motive to, you know, try and make a profit off of this.

Warren's, I'm always wary of them because, you know, of the controversies of their past experiences and the fact that, you know, they do have the highest grossing horror film franchise in the world.

Exactly.