Daniela Relph

But

It's interesting listening there, because the thing that strikes me about the state visit is sometimes it definitely doesn't cover up the cracks.

It really highlights where the joins are splitting, I suppose, in many ways.

And it doesn't.

And I feel that has done this a bit, because when you look at the two men as individuals, I mean, have the King and Donald Trump ever felt further apart?

as they do at the moment.

You know, you have this brash, shoots from the hip, kind of, you know, loves the cameras, loves the attention kind of president with this quiet, really restrained, really thinks very carefully about everything he says to a human being.

They are just polar opposites.

And I think ultimately the job here was just to try and soften the edges of that relationship and try and find a way that perhaps others working with him can now move forward more politically and diplomatically.

But yeah, I mean, it has really struck me that it hasn't necessarily brought people together.

It's just really emphasised how different both administrations are.

Yeah, it isn't really.

There was that very short line in the Congress speech yesterday about victims of society's ills, which was, we are told by Buckingham Palace, a reference to victims of sexual abuse.

So that was the closest that the King has come to any direct reference to Jeffrey Epstein or his victims and survivors.

So, I mean, it isn't being addressed, as the Palace has said, you know, that it isn't that they...

don't want to.

It's just that they can't because legal advice says that should they step in and lean into the Epstein conversation while they are here, that there is a chance it could jeopardise the legal process for the victims who are still in pursuit of justice around that.

They do.

Yeah.

We've got this day in New York today where just a day trip here where the King will have the 9-11 memorial.