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Danielle Jablanski

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
559 total appearances

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Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

And so I give them all of the batch operations in the facility for bottling, labeling, et cetera, like everything that happens.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

Then I give them the Coca-Cola business model, right?

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

This is how they have these kind of distributed supply chains.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

This is what gets sent here.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

And this is how they make money off of that, right?

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

Because they're not actually responsible for the entire end-to-end product, right?

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

It's distributed.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

There's subsidiaries, yada, yada.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

And then I go through and I say, like, here's a plant network.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

And I say, here's a recent update for a Wi-Fi thing that they've done for the

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

the plant.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

And so, and I basically have them act as consultants and look at this network topology.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

There's some obvious things like it's missing a DMZ, but there are actually pictures of the facility in Dallas that have like open PLC racks online that you can find on Google.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

And so I walked them through this entire kind of put your security hat on.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

And as a consultant, tell me what we could do better, what we could bring in house, what you would recommend exporting, what we don't necessarily understand, what we can learn from other breaches.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

There was a Pepsi incident that I link into the thing.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

And so it starts that systems of systems thinking is really the main takeaway.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

And if they've been paying attention to the whole course, they can borrow from every single week to say, oh, you know, the MITRE attack tells me that this is a vulnerability in this type of a facility.

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

But I really look to see at the end of the day, are they building on what they've learned to apply it to the real world, which is something that they consume, not understanding not only this equation,

Bites and Bytes Podcast
Danielle Jablanski on Food & Ag, OT Security & Everything in Between

equipment and machines that make that happen, but the processes and the layers of how it gets from, from A to Z. So not an organic product, obviously, but one that's manufactured that I hope is like illuminating for students where they're like, wow, I have never thought about the world around me like this.