Danielle Jablanski

There's this whole conversation of how many Chinese students study in the U.S.

We're not going to have a massive armed conflict with a country that you're actively sending multiple students to.

I agree with that.

There's soft power and hard power, but I'm right there with you in that line of thinking.

Right.

And the reliance on tech and the security implications, I think, is a totally separate conversation from the one we're having.

But yeah.

Muleshoe, Texas.

Yes.

Exactly.

And culture, like you were saying-

with food being such a big part of everyone's culture.

That is a soft power leverage.

And I mean, another one that was huge is like one of the first leaders from China to visit the US, I believe came to Texas, if I remember right, from my education for a ping pong tournament.

Okay, soft power goes...

There's a lot of really...

Bring this back, not to make it about me, but back to the thread.

I just remembered one of the people at the Sandy Foundation in Iowa was editing this book about the history of Chinese relations in Muscatine, Iowa, of all places, like talking about small towns and cultural impact and soft power.

Xi Jinping, 1985.

I love it.