Danielle Wood

States are moving.

I think we've seen some big shifts in planning regimes in Victoria and New South Wales and WA, but we'd like to see more of that.

And I think incentivising states to do that work is the way to go.

Look, I don't think there's any quick fix.

And even if we, you know, significantly up the supply, which I think we have to, that's going to take decades to filter through.

We definitely, I don't think, could get used to the kind of growth in prices relative to incomes that we've seen because, you know, it would get to a point, you know, it's already at a point where we're seeing, you know, young people leaving Sydney en masse.

Well, one, we should be working on the problem.

So, you know, all the things that I'm talking about are really important to try and boost the supply and make housing more accessible over time.

You know, I think we see more of the same challenges, which is...

Some of the particularly big cities, not being able to have young people live there close to jobs and opportunities, a world where whether your parents own a house is more predictive of whether you own a house than your own efforts and incomes.

I mean, those are not great outcomes.

It's not going to change overnight, but it's more incentive, I think, to push even harder to make sure that it changes over the long term.

Oh, it's a great question.

I mean, so in a way, it's moving from a kind of non-government think tank into…

into a government think tank.

I think, you know, what's very special about the commission, you know, we're very rare by international standards.

Like there isn't many countries that have something that looks like the PC and I have all these international delegations come through and say, wow, this is really cool.

Some say they have PC envy.

But, you know, I think it's having that long history of being able to do these sort of deep policy, deep dives for government, pushing into areas that are by definition hard and thorny, but having processes, including extraordinary processes for consultation.

engagement that, you know, hopefully means that even if people don't necessarily agree with every single thing in the recommendations, they can see that we have used evidence and we've done, we've reached conclusions that, you know, would be in the long-term interests of Australians.