Danny Jones

He's constantly drinking Budweiser.

I've never seen him without a Budweiser in his hand.

Works yeah, it's great.

Yeah, there was this documentary that just came out all about him from one of the guys, Thomas, that used to work for Vice.

He was, like, one of the original reporters for Vice.

He did all, like, the early stuff.

And he made this documentary all about Gavin.

And it, like, focuses on the transformation from, like, early punk rock, like, liberal Gavin in the U.K.

with, like, the mobs and the rockers to, like, the current Gavin, which is, like, you know, he frames him as this, like, this super right-wing racist dude.

And, you know, I was asking Gavin about it because he came on the podcast recently.

And he's like, I've always been the same.

He's like he was explaining that his views never changed.

He was saying that like vice all of a sudden was getting infused with millions of corporate dollars.

I wasn't a good look for that.

They didn't want me in there.

But meanwhile, he was like the whole soul of vice.

Like if there was no Gavin, there was no vice.

Like all the controversial do's and don'ts shit and like.

All those controversial articles about, like, trans and trans shit early in, like, the early 2000s that he was doing was funny.

And, like, culture didn't look at it the way it looks at it today, you know?