Danny Jones

Right.

Yeah, my biggest issue with that stuff, like the telepathy tapes and the Mindsight stuff, is that they won't let any stage magicians go in there and observe them doing what they do.

And their excuse is, that'll ruin the energy or the vibe or whatever.

Like if there's someone in here who is slightly skeptical, it will shut down our abilities.

but there are, there's mentalists and shit and these magicians who know how to fake this stuff and they can literally fake it and tell you, yeah, I'll show you how I'm faking it.

I believe it.

I believe it's real.

Right.

So you think...

You think all that stuff that happened in the telepathy tapes, like these nonverbal kids going to this hill and speaking to all these entities, you think all that shit's real?

A three.

And you remember those NDEs from that young?

Man, that's crazy.

It really is.

Right, right.

Well, I mean, there seems to be...

just covering everything that we've talked about today, like the whole phenomenon and even like the history of like the United States space program.

If you look at the people that were involved in like NASA in the early days, they seem to believe there was more to this than just the materialists.

Yeah.

And Edgar Mitchell was really into this stuff.