Danny Jones

This was during the COVID stuff.

And it was because- Before you went on Rogan.

Yeah, literally two days before I went on Rogan, the very first time.

And then I go on Rogan and we have an influx of all these patients and we have no way to bill them.

We have no way to onboard patients because our credit card merchant won't allow us to bill or collect because they said we were advertising peptides and stem cells and those aren't FDA approved.

and so they can shut down your it's just like the marijuana trade they can shut down your banking they can shut down your access to billing and collections if you're not in their ecosystem and they can do it in an array of different ways so and then you also get shut down on social media like we've been banned so many times on on instagram and different things because we do peptides and peptides aren't fda approved or you do stem cells and stem cells aren't fda approved and if some kid thinks you're making a claim they can just come and hammer you

and make your life hell.

And that's how I ended up on Rogan.

I was literally breaking down for Rogan, the corruption, the collusion and the corporate capture.

And one day, because he was a patient and I was just talking to him when he's in the clinic and we had developed a relationship over maybe a year and a half.

And one day he goes, come on the podcast.

I'm like, dude, I've never done a podcast.

He's like, dude, shut the fuck up.

It's two guys talking, just come on the podcast.

And so I remember going on there terrified and like, it was just terrifying.

And it led to getting to know a lot of politicians, getting phone calls from all over the United States with people who were firsthand, had experienced the things that I was talking about.

I mean, I'm talking congressmen, congresswomen, state attorney generals who were digging into these insurance companies, whistleblowers, you name it.

And at this point, I've helped multiple states

with the pharmacy benefit managers and the way that they're getting price gouged.

Like in the state of Ohio, they uncovered, I think, $230 million in healthcare fraud through the PBM, meaning drugs being marked up, drugs that should have been a fraction of the cost are causing their governmental payer programs, exorbitant expenses.