Daphne Halikiopoulou

They are antithetical to the very essence of the democracies that Europe is based on.

I've got some really interesting campaigns.

The AFD campaign, the AFD was recently announced

called an extreme party in Germany, yet it's saying, no, we're not extreme.

It had this bikini campaign a few years ago when it was competing for elections, saying, well, you know what, we just don't want these others who come in with their intolerant ideas and tell us we can't wear bikinis on the beach, we can't drink our wine and we can't eat our pork.

because we are a liberal, democratic party, and we just don't want to include those who ideologically exclude us.

Now, this is a very, very clever strategy because this makes parties appear more moderate.

It takes away the stigma of fascism.

It takes away the stigma of extremism.

So a voter will say, well, it's okay, I can vote for these people because they are not actually extreme.

But unfortunately, these parties are extreme, and we see that these parties are extreme as they increasingly enter government and they increasingly attack liberal democratic institutions.

So what am I saying here, just to finish?

I'm saying that if it was simply a story about society changing, society no longer being divided simply by haves and have-nots, but divided on a transnational cleavage,

then we could tackle immigration and that would be it.

But this is not what is going on.

This is not at all.

Other parties copying the far right on immigration are only making this problem worse.

They are only normalising the far right and making the far right bigger.

Because the problem is not a problem necessarily that comes from the demand, it's a problem

of supply.