Dara Lind

Thank you. It is. I mean, I can't say it's great to be on. Right. But it's like it's certainly the kind of moment that people with my expertise are in demand, I guess.

Thank you. It is. I mean, I can't say it's great to be on. Right. But it's like it's certainly the kind of moment that people with my expertise are in demand, I guess.

I think that the most salient thing, and this is not just the day one executive orders, it's a lot of stuff that has come out since then in the form of like departmental or agency memos or just in what people are seeing on the ground, is a really aggressive ramp up of interior enforcement against people who have been living in the United States, many of whom were given some form of protections under the Biden administration.

I think that the most salient thing, and this is not just the day one executive orders, it's a lot of stuff that has come out since then in the form of like departmental or agency memos or just in what people are seeing on the ground, is a really aggressive ramp up of interior enforcement against people who have been living in the United States, many of whom were given some form of protections under the Biden administration.

We know that The Trump administration has changed regulations so that anyone who is apprehended anywhere in the U.S. who cannot prove to an immigration agent's satisfaction that they've been here for more than two years could be deported without a court hearing. Huge change. We know that they are making an effort to strip parole protections from people who came under the...

We know that The Trump administration has changed regulations so that anyone who is apprehended anywhere in the U.S. who cannot prove to an immigration agent's satisfaction that they've been here for more than two years could be deported without a court hearing. Huge change. We know that they are making an effort to strip parole protections from people who came under the...

Cuban, Haitian, Nicaraguan, and Venezuelan parole programs, other Biden parole programs when they encounter them. Not that we don't know how broad that's gonna be, but that those people will be considered vulnerable for deportation and that there might be efforts to take people who are in immigration court, close the immigration court case, and try to deport them without a court hearing.

Cuban, Haitian, Nicaraguan, and Venezuelan parole programs, other Biden parole programs when they encounter them. Not that we don't know how broad that's gonna be, but that those people will be considered vulnerable for deportation and that there might be efforts to take people who are in immigration court, close the immigration court case, and try to deport them without a court hearing.

And we know that they're stepping up the use of agents from other agencies, whether that's DEA, ATF, that they're stepping up the use of military assets, including planes.

And we know that they're stepping up the use of agents from other agencies, whether that's DEA, ATF, that they're stepping up the use of military assets, including planes.

And so given that most of the biggest impediments to like deporting 11 million people were not legal, but logistical, that kind of force multiplier could be a very big difference in how many people they're ultimately able to deport.

And so given that most of the biggest impediments to like deporting 11 million people were not legal, but logistical, that kind of force multiplier could be a very big difference in how many people they're ultimately able to deport.

Sure, absolutely. So there are essentially four major steps that are generally taken to take somebody who is in the U.S. without authorization. and move them to being somebody who's been deported. The first is arresting them.

Sure, absolutely. So there are essentially four major steps that are generally taken to take somebody who is in the U.S. without authorization. and move them to being somebody who's been deported. The first is arresting them.

The second is finding somewhere to keep them in custody, given that this administration doesn't particularly like releasing people pending their court hearings or pending further action. There's the court case itself, which they're trying to kind of abridge by using this expedited removal provision more aggressively. So that's kind of an optional one. And then four,

The second is finding somewhere to keep them in custody, given that this administration doesn't particularly like releasing people pending their court hearings or pending further action. There's the court case itself, which they're trying to kind of abridge by using this expedited removal provision more aggressively. So that's kind of an optional one. And then four,

you have to physically deport them. You have to have the seat on the plane and you have to have a country that's willing to accept them. So even if you look at what they've done over the last week and say, okay, in general, they're really trying to get rid of this third stage of the process wherever possible, that still leaves arrest, detention, and deportation.

you have to physically deport them. You have to have the seat on the plane and you have to have a country that's willing to accept them. So even if you look at what they've done over the last week and say, okay, in general, they're really trying to get rid of this third stage of the process wherever possible, that still leaves arrest, detention, and deportation.

So the more agents they have on the ground who are not just ICE agents, but other agencies that are being tasked with immigration enforcement, And the more they're able to enlist state and local police to do immigration enforcement, the easier the first one gets. The more they're able to build temporary facilities, especially using military money, under control.

So the more agents they have on the ground who are not just ICE agents, but other agencies that are being tasked with immigration enforcement, And the more they're able to enlist state and local police to do immigration enforcement, the easier the first one gets. The more they're able to build temporary facilities, especially using military money, under control.