Dara Lind
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you know, there were a lot of things that they were working on that were very close hold, that they weren't putting in Project 2025, a lot of memos and policy guidance that they were pre-drafting. And so we just don't know what the volume of those is.
you know, there were a lot of things that they were working on that were very close hold, that they weren't putting in Project 2025, a lot of memos and policy guidance that they were pre-drafting. And so we just don't know what the volume of those is.
We've continued to see things going out that almost certainly were developed before inauguration because it would just be a tremendous amount of effort to get them done after that. But we don't know how much there is. And it is, you know, there are some things in the executive orders that kind of hint at future action.
We've continued to see things going out that almost certainly were developed before inauguration because it would just be a tremendous amount of effort to get them done after that. But we don't know how much there is. And it is, you know, there are some things in the executive orders that kind of hint at future action.
There is, for example, one executive order that says that within 90 days, there should be a review of whether the Insurrection Act is necessary to invoke. So that is something that they've actually flagged could be coming. But for the most part, the MO of this administration is and was during the, you know, the end of the first term,
There is, for example, one executive order that says that within 90 days, there should be a review of whether the Insurrection Act is necessary to invoke. So that is something that they've actually flagged could be coming. But for the most part, the MO of this administration is and was during the, you know, the end of the first term,
defined places in federal law that can be used to ramp up immigration enforcement that have kind of lain dormant for decades. So we don't know how many of those other places they've found.
defined places in federal law that can be used to ramp up immigration enforcement that have kind of lain dormant for decades. So we don't know how many of those other places they've found.
The primary way that they would be going about this would be just engaging in enforcement. Usually when there are large-scale workplace raids, those are associated with some form of prosecution or sanction or something against the employer who they're raiding. That's a... kind of stochastic thing, right? You're not like, you're not auditing an entire sector.
The primary way that they would be going about this would be just engaging in enforcement. Usually when there are large-scale workplace raids, those are associated with some form of prosecution or sanction or something against the employer who they're raiding. That's a... kind of stochastic thing, right? You're not like, you're not auditing an entire sector.
And so the extent to which it's going to really shape employer behavior is unclear. But yeah, the biggest tool, the biggest thing that kind of hasn't been done on employer sanctions is legislative. It's mandatory nationwide e-verify. And that has not been as much of a priority of this generation of immigration restrictionism as it was like a decade ago, in part because
And so the extent to which it's going to really shape employer behavior is unclear. But yeah, the biggest tool, the biggest thing that kind of hasn't been done on employer sanctions is legislative. It's mandatory nationwide e-verify. And that has not been as much of a priority of this generation of immigration restrictionism as it was like a decade ago, in part because
There are employers who would who are willing to stay quiet even as it becomes harder for them to hire people legally. But if you try to go after their workforce, then or if you try to prevent them from hiring anyone who doesn't have authorization, then they'll get mad at you. Um, so, you know, I think it's, it's still to be seen.
There are employers who would who are willing to stay quiet even as it becomes harder for them to hire people legally. But if you try to go after their workforce, then or if you try to prevent them from hiring anyone who doesn't have authorization, then they'll get mad at you. Um, so, you know, I think it's, it's still to be seen.
It's certainly not a, it's, it's not a rhetorical priority for them unless you start talking about the economic benefits of immigration, in which case they start talking about how exploitative employers are. But there hasn't been a whole lot of effort to make it, you know, for example, Department of Labor priority to go after employers for exploiting unauthorized labor. Yeah.
It's certainly not a, it's, it's not a rhetorical priority for them unless you start talking about the economic benefits of immigration, in which case they start talking about how exploitative employers are. But there hasn't been a whole lot of effort to make it, you know, for example, Department of Labor priority to go after employers for exploiting unauthorized labor. Yeah.
I think that, you know, for one thing, the thermostatic effect, you know, of public opinion swinging in favor of immigrants under Trump and then swinging against under Biden is really, really hard to, it's hard to overstate. And it's also hard to disentangle anything else from that kind of basic oh, the government is doing some things I don't like. I'm going to make this more salient.
I think that, you know, for one thing, the thermostatic effect, you know, of public opinion swinging in favor of immigrants under Trump and then swinging against under Biden is really, really hard to, it's hard to overstate. And it's also hard to disentangle anything else from that kind of basic oh, the government is doing some things I don't like. I'm going to make this more salient.
In general, immigration isn't salient for a whole lot of people. And so it's very easy to kind of swing them from one direction to the other based on opposition to who's in office, based on seeing B-roll of people coming in, that sort of thing. I don't think that... I think it's kind of not clear...
In general, immigration isn't salient for a whole lot of people. And so it's very easy to kind of swing them from one direction to the other based on opposition to who's in office, based on seeing B-roll of people coming in, that sort of thing. I don't think that... I think it's kind of not clear...