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Dario Amodei

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2714 total appearances

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And so, you know, again, if we had the time and we should do this, we should try to do this even even if we don't have the time.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Is there some way of.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

reconceptualizing constitutional rights and liberties in the age of AI.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Like, you know, we don't need to write a new constitutional, but, you know.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

But you have to do this very fast.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Do we expand the meaning of the Fourth Amendment?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Do we expand the meaning of the First Amendment?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

You know, I, I think there are definitely going to be things that go wrong, particularly if we go quickly.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

So I don't know to back up a little bit, because this is one area where people have had like just very different intuitions, right?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Like there are some people in the field, like Yann LeCun would be, would be one example who say, look,

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

we program these AI models, we make them like, we just tell them to follow human instructions and they'll follow human instructions.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Like, you know, your Roomba vacuum cleaner doesn't go off and start shooting people.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Like why is an AI system gonna do it, right?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

That's one intuition.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And some people are so convinced of that.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And then the other intuition is like, we basically, we train these things.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

They're just going to like seek power.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Like, you know, it's like the sorcerer's apprentice.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Like, how could you possibly imagine that like, you know, they're not going to, they're a new species.