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Dario Amodei

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1816 total appearances

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

In the next step, some parts of the job of farming could be done entirely by machines, for example with the invention of the threshing machine or seed drill.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

In this phase, humans did a lower and lower fraction of the job, but the work they did complete became more and more leveraged because it is complementary to the work of machines, and their productivity continued to rise.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

As described by Jevons' paradox, the wages of farmers and perhaps even the number of farmers continue to increase.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Even when 90% of the job is being done by machines, humans can simply do 10x more of the 10% they still do, producing 10x as much output for the same amount of labor.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Eventually, machines do everything or almost everything, as with modern combine harvesters, tractors, and other equipment.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

At this point farming as a form of human employment really does go into steep decline, and this potentially causes serious disruption in the short term, but because farming is just one of many useful activities that humans are able to do, people eventually switch to other jobs, such as operating factory machines.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

This is true even though farming accounted for a huge proportion of employment ex ante.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

250 years ago, 90% of Americans lived on farms.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

In Europe, 50-60% of employment was agricultural.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Now those percentages are in the low single digits in those places, because workers switched to industrial jobs, and later, knowledge work jobs.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

The economy can do what previously required most of the labor force with only 1-2% of it, freeing up the rest of the labor force to build an ever more advanced industrial society.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

There's no fixed lump of labor, just an ever-expanding ability to do more and more with less and less.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

People's wages rise in line with the GDP exponential and the economy maintains full employment once disruptions in the short term have passed.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

It's possible things will go roughly the same way with AI, but I would bet pretty strongly against it.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Here are some reasons I think AI is likely to be different.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Speed

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

the pace of progress in AI is much faster than for previous technological revolutions.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

For example, in the last two years, AI models went from barely being able to complete a single line of code to writing all or almost all of the code for some people, including engineers at Anthropic.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Soon, they may do the entire task of a software engineer end-to-end.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

It is hard for people to adapt to this pace of change, both to the changes in how a given job works and in the need to switch to new jobs.