Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Libraries Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Dario Amodei

πŸ‘€ Speaker
1816 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Democracy is ultimately backstopped by the idea that the population as a whole is necessary for the operation of the economy.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

If that economic leverage goes away, then the implicit social contract of democracy may stop working.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Others have written about this, so I needn't go into great detail about it here, but I agree with the concern, and I worry it is already starting to happen.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

To be clear, I am not opposed to people making a lot of money.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

There's a strong argument that it incentivizes economic growth under normal conditions.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

I am sympathetic to concerns about impeding innovation by killing the golden goose that generates it.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

But in a scenario where GDP growth is 10-20% a year and AI is rapidly taking over the economy, yet single individuals hold appreciable fractions of the GDP, innovation is not the thing to worry about.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

The thing to worry about is a level of wealth concentration that will break society.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

The most famous example of extreme concentration of wealth in US history is the Gilded Age, and the wealthiest industrialist of the Gilded Age was John D. Rockefeller.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Rockefeller's wealth amounted to roughly 2% of the US GDP at the time.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

A similar fraction today would lead to a fortune of $600 billion and the richest person in the world today, Elon Musk, already exceeds that, at roughly $700 billion.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

So we are already at historically unprecedented levels of wealth concentration even before most of the economic impact of AI.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

I don't think it is too much of a stretch if we get a country of geniuses to imagine AI companies, semiconductor companies, and perhaps downstream application companies generating roughly $3T in revenue per year, being valued at roughly $30T, and leading to personal fortunes well into the trillions.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

In that world, the debates we have about tax policy today simply won't apply as we will be in a fundamentally different situation.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Related to this, the coupling of this economic concentration of wealth with the political system already concerns me.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

AI data centers already represent a substantial fraction of US economic growth, and are thus strongly tying together the financial interests of large tech companies, which are increasingly focused on either AI or AI infrastructure, and the political interests of the government in a way that can produce perverse incentives.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

We already see this through the reluctance of tech companies to criticize the US government and the government's support for extreme anti-regulatory policies on AI.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

What can be done about this?

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

First, and most obviously, companies should simply choose not to be part of it.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Dario Amodei – The Adolescence of Technology" by habryka

Anthropic has always strived to be a policy actor and not a political one, and to maintain our authentic views whatever the administration.