Dave Bernad

A thousand percent. And what is a marginal move? Because it's all taste, right? Producing is all taste. It all comes down to opinion. And what's a lateral move that you can give to a network or studio or whomever to then buy back later on? Right. Oh, we have a great...

I just remember a great story from Enlightened where the network was hammering us on this one episode, and there was a piece of dialogue that Mike just loved. It was so lateral. Whether it was in or not didn't really matter. For some reason, HBO was hammering us. And we sent them back a cut with a taken out to make them feel good about it. But then we were like, we're going to deliver the line in.

I just remember a great story from Enlightened where the network was hammering us on this one episode, and there was a piece of dialogue that Mike just loved. It was so lateral. Whether it was in or not didn't really matter. For some reason, HBO was hammering us. And we sent them back a cut with a taken out to make them feel good about it. But then we were like, we're going to deliver the line in.

I just remember a great story from Enlightened where the network was hammering us on this one episode, and there was a piece of dialogue that Mike just loved. It was so lateral. Whether it was in or not didn't really matter. For some reason, HBO was hammering us. And we sent them back a cut with a taken out to make them feel good about it. But then we were like, we're going to deliver the line in.

So we pretended that we had taken it out. We deliver it with the line in. And then they didn't notice, of course, because they're probably doing eight different things. They're giving notes. And then we go to the premiere and the network, HBO was like, you know, we should premiere that episode. And it was the episode that we had switched out the dialogue.

So we pretended that we had taken it out. We deliver it with the line in. And then they didn't notice, of course, because they're probably doing eight different things. They're giving notes. And then we go to the premiere and the network, HBO was like, you know, we should premiere that episode. And it was the episode that we had switched out the dialogue.

So we pretended that we had taken it out. We deliver it with the line in. And then they didn't notice, of course, because they're probably doing eight different things. They're giving notes. And then we go to the premiere and the network, HBO was like, you know, we should premiere that episode. And it was the episode that we had switched out the dialogue.

So we're like, holy shit, they're gonna notice in the premiere. And so we played it and Mike and I are sitting next to all the HBO executives who had given us those notes and they never noticed, they didn't remember. And then we sent them all t-shirts after the premiere with the line of dialogue. And then by the way, they were like, what does that mean?

So we're like, holy shit, they're gonna notice in the premiere. And so we played it and Mike and I are sitting next to all the HBO executives who had given us those notes and they never noticed, they didn't remember. And then we sent them all t-shirts after the premiere with the line of dialogue. And then by the way, they were like, what does that mean?

So we're like, holy shit, they're gonna notice in the premiere. And so we played it and Mike and I are sitting next to all the HBO executives who had given us those notes and they never noticed, they didn't remember. And then we sent them all t-shirts after the premiere with the line of dialogue. And then by the way, they were like, what does that mean?

They had no, they have no memory of it, but it's, that's a good example. It's like, you're getting these notes from people and they're like, it's a Monday morning for them. Tuesday morning, they probably forgot what they said. And ultimately you got to trust your creative instincts.

They had no, they have no memory of it, but it's, that's a good example. It's like, you're getting these notes from people and they're like, it's a Monday morning for them. Tuesday morning, they probably forgot what they said. And ultimately you got to trust your creative instincts.

They had no, they have no memory of it, but it's, that's a good example. It's like, you're getting these notes from people and they're like, it's a Monday morning for them. Tuesday morning, they probably forgot what they said. And ultimately you got to trust your creative instincts.

And, and by that episode, one of our best episodes we ever did in that line that we took out, I swear is so often quoted from Enlightened.

And, and by that episode, one of our best episodes we ever did in that line that we took out, I swear is so often quoted from Enlightened.

And, and by that episode, one of our best episodes we ever did in that line that we took out, I swear is so often quoted from Enlightened.

Always.

Always.

Always.

Or you have like 19 people on the Zoom, right? And every person is like, if I don't say something, I feel like I'm a loser. So then everyone has to weigh in with something that is like, Yeah, just to weigh in. And I've been in those positions where you're on these Zooms and you don't really have anything to add, but you feel like you have to. Otherwise, you look like a total loser.