Dave Damaschek

So he could build a car?

I mean, he could open up a—see, now I'm out of my depth.

He could open up a hood of a car, take it apart, and put it back together?

And he is not that guy.

He is?

Yes.

Oh, really?

Wow.

I think that's the picture we need, by the way, is it did Conan because there is talk that Conan said five years ago, NBC, he forced their hand.

You need to make a commitment to me long term.

That's what that's what got Leno into like, all right, five years and then you're off.

And if you look at the whole picture, then you're right that Leno does deserve some slack on that count, at least.

Right.

It does seem it did.

But everybody, you know, like you say, a year ago, six months ago, three months or whatever it was, three months before they actually made the big change.

Yeah, it seemed like, well, this is this is ridiculous.

This is the by far.

I mean, he is destroying Letterman, but we're going to take him off.

It seemed crazy.

And I thought the whole thing was then they would have to pay out Conan an exorbitant sum to get out from under it.