Dave Dameshek

This is high end journalism.

What do you make of, I'm not looking for you to impugn anybody, but what's replaced journalism largely over the last decade is the notion of the newsbreaker.

To me, these are transcribers.

What value do you think that has, if any?

It just feels to me like spiked information, obviously, parties incented to get word out and then reporting that in advance of something.

And there's very little, if any, evidence, to your point about investigation.

There's a lot of...

speculative stuff out there but very rarely do the news breakers tell you something is about to happen before it actually happens and that like i say turns them in to transcribers high-end highly paid ones who who then um turn themselves into martyrs by saying it's it's hard to have a regular life i can't have a regular life because i'm too busy that's

I want to know, the investigation and then Pablo goes, but I'd like to know where Michael Lombardi gets those hats he wears.

He wears them all the time.

They're nice.

They're very natural looking.

They're kind of like... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're brown.

They're always brown.

I can't tell what they're made out of.

That's spot on.

We'll leave it there.

Hey, Pablo Torre, really appreciate the time, man.

Everybody's already checking your show out, but Pablo Torre Finds Out is one that is essential right now.