Dave Davies

Well, yeah, let's talk about that directly.

The Athletic reported on this.

A few weeks after this Ultimate Fighting Championship and the White House lawn was announced, Donald Trump bought a substantial amount of stock.

He was required to report this, so we don't know the exact amount, but it was between $15,000 and $50,000 stock into TKO Holdings, which is the parent company of the Ultimate Fighting Championships.

What's the significance of this?

So a potential conflict of interest if there's an event on a public space that he's profiting from.

Now, a lawsuit was filed just over the weekend asking a judge to halt this event.

What do we know about that?

You know, before I let you go, you know, at The Athletic, you have all these veteran sports journalists, a huge staff who do great work.

I mean, a lot of good analytical stuff.

And I imagine a lot of these sports journalists got into the field because they were either athletes themselves or just loved sports and they liked to write about the players and the teams and the competition.

But, you know, sports is such a big business now and the drive for profits affects competition.

I wonder if you wrestle at times with how to apportion your reporting resources to covering the athletic competition or the business of sports.

So are you going to be attending any World Cup matches yourself?

Are you picking your games based on the competing teams, just getting a sense of it?

I mean, are you there as a journalist or a fan or what?

Well, Laura Williamson, thank you so much for speaking with us.

Laura Williamson is editor-in-chief at The Athletic from The New York Times.

We recorded our interview yesterday.

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