Dave Davies

So I want to move us into the Trump era here. Lachlan Murdoch, the elder son, had left the company. He had been in Australia for many years. And then in 2015, he moves back, gets an office in Los Angeles. He's with the company. James, the younger brother, has an office in New York, putting them in kind of an awkward position, both being prominent executives in the company.

So I want to move us into the Trump era here. Lachlan Murdoch, the elder son, had left the company. He had been in Australia for many years. And then in 2015, he moves back, gets an office in Los Angeles. He's with the company. James, the younger brother, has an office in New York, putting them in kind of an awkward position, both being prominent executives in the company.

So I want to move us into the Trump era here. Lachlan Murdoch, the elder son, had left the company. He had been in Australia for many years. And then in 2015, he moves back, gets an office in Los Angeles. He's with the company. James, the younger brother, has an office in New York, putting them in kind of an awkward position, both being prominent executives in the company.

And then in 2015, Donald Trump appears on the scene as a presidential candidate. One question I've always had is how much Rupert Murdoch is motivated by an ideological agenda as opposed to accumulating in wealth and power. And you write that in 2016, Rupert Murdoch was openly scornful of Trump's candidacy at first saying his election would be the end of the Republican Party.

And then in 2015, Donald Trump appears on the scene as a presidential candidate. One question I've always had is how much Rupert Murdoch is motivated by an ideological agenda as opposed to accumulating in wealth and power. And you write that in 2016, Rupert Murdoch was openly scornful of Trump's candidacy at first saying his election would be the end of the Republican Party.

And then in 2015, Donald Trump appears on the scene as a presidential candidate. One question I've always had is how much Rupert Murdoch is motivated by an ideological agenda as opposed to accumulating in wealth and power. And you write that in 2016, Rupert Murdoch was openly scornful of Trump's candidacy at first saying his election would be the end of the Republican Party.

But once he had momentum, you write the Fox News primetime lineup turned into a four-hour Trump commercial. How did James regard this, this turn in Fox News?

But once he had momentum, you write the Fox News primetime lineup turned into a four-hour Trump commercial. How did James regard this, this turn in Fox News?

But once he had momentum, you write the Fox News primetime lineup turned into a four-hour Trump commercial. How did James regard this, this turn in Fox News?

And Lachlan was still in the company. Do we know what his attitude was towards the Fox News embrace of Trump and what his relationship was like with James during this time?

And Lachlan was still in the company. Do we know what his attitude was towards the Fox News embrace of Trump and what his relationship was like with James during this time?

And Lachlan was still in the company. Do we know what his attitude was towards the Fox News embrace of Trump and what his relationship was like with James during this time?

So James gradually became a bit more public about his views. I mean particularly he put out a statement about Trump's remarks on the march in Charlottesville saying – Trump saying that there were very fine people in the tiki torch march there. And then there was another occasion when there were terrible forest fires in Australia.

So James gradually became a bit more public about his views. I mean particularly he put out a statement about Trump's remarks on the march in Charlottesville saying – Trump saying that there were very fine people in the tiki torch march there. And then there was another occasion when there were terrible forest fires in Australia.

So James gradually became a bit more public about his views. I mean particularly he put out a statement about Trump's remarks on the march in Charlottesville saying – Trump saying that there were very fine people in the tiki torch march there. And then there was another occasion when there were terrible forest fires in Australia.

And some media, I think the Daily Beast, asked for comment about, well, what about the fact that the Murdoch papers in Australia ignore climate change as an element of all this? What happened?

And some media, I think the Daily Beast, asked for comment about, well, what about the fact that the Murdoch papers in Australia ignore climate change as an element of all this? What happened?

And some media, I think the Daily Beast, asked for comment about, well, what about the fact that the Murdoch papers in Australia ignore climate change as an element of all this? What happened?

McKay Coffins is a staff writer for The Atlantic. His new article is Growing Up Murdoch, James Murdoch on mind games, sibling rivalry, and the war for the family media empire. He'll be back to talk more after this short break. I'm Dave Davies, and this is Fresh Air Weekend. So let's get to the court battle that's at the heart of this story.

McKay Coffins is a staff writer for The Atlantic. His new article is Growing Up Murdoch, James Murdoch on mind games, sibling rivalry, and the war for the family media empire. He'll be back to talk more after this short break. I'm Dave Davies, and this is Fresh Air Weekend. So let's get to the court battle that's at the heart of this story.