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Do you have a sense of how her staff feel about this commitment to abolishing the department?

It would be demoralizing for a lot of people, I think.

I think your goal is to shut me down.

What's your sense of how comfortable she is being the hatchet woman here?

Is she a happy warrior?

Donald Trump and Linda McMahon cannot eliminate the Department of Education.

Only Congress can do that.

They know that.

They don't have the votes to do it now.

It would require 60 votes in Congress.

What's your sense of the relationship between these steps to reduce the department, to strip it down and its ultimate goal?

opens the door toward more privatization as well she and Vince have two adult children Stephanie and Shane does she have any relationship she or her children with World Wrestling Entertainment which I guess is what the company was

Well, Zach Helfand, thank you so much for speaking with us.

Thanks for having me on.

Zach Helfand is a staff writer at The New Yorker.

His new article is titled The Executor, How Professional Wrestling Prepared Linda McMahon for Trump's Cabinet.

On tomorrow's show, historian Stephen J. Ross describes the racist and anti-Semitic groups that formed in the U.S.

after World War II to carry on Hitler's work American style.

He also writes about groups that sent people undercover to infiltrate and expose the hate mongers.

His book is The Secret War Against Hate.