Dave Hand

But I had enough.

Like, I just –

Couldn't sit there.

I was one of the fidgety kids and leaving was probably the best thing for me.

Yeah.

What was the school experience like?

I chopped and changed schools a few times, but it was, I was a tall, skinny, lanky kid, you know, and then I'm like in year seven, taller than the older kids and they're like, you know, getting bullied and stuff like that.

I was like, this place is not for me.

Yeah, it definitely separated like my friends I grew up with like in the streets, riding the bikes and stuff like that to being like an older crowd where it was sort of trying to fit in with the cooler kids and which instance they were the wrong crowd to hang out with, which sort of, yeah, you come to realise that as you get a bit older and like my parents split up when I was 12 and, you know, that two-year period leading up to being 14, I was like –

trying to figure everything out.

I got up one morning and I'm like, I need to get out of here.

Like I wanted to leave the Western suburbs and my dad had a girlfriend at the time who lived in Altham.

Where's that for our... So it's out like east, like Greensboro away.

Yeah, and I was like, yeah, I need to get out and...

A week later, I left.

Wow.

I left and I just went and started fresh over somewhere else.

Like I mentioned before, you don't really realise how different suburbs are.

You know, I went to Eltham a few times and they had lots of trees.

It smelled like fresh air.