Dave Hanratty

Best Picture is plural.

Best compendium.

But Rocky I is the better movie, no?

But I know what you're saying.

It's more of a serious hang.

You're kind of like, oh, look, I have to get into this and I have to kind of put the phone down.

Rocky IV, on the other hand, I'm going to see...

a man get killed in the boxing ring and it's like a plot point it just grabs you by the throat you know yeah yeah it's so well known at this stage but like Sylvester Stallone getting Rocky made and becoming the behemoth it's become is absolutely mad like and he's so well known now he's in so many movies and he's been in our lives for like 50 odd years but like that still is an epic story and then he gets his night at the Oscars when it wins Best Picture like it's crazy

Yeah, real underdog story.

And real courage of convictions to say, I'm not taking the biggest paycheck of my life to walk away and let somebody else play my character.

It must be... I'm not saying Rocky is like Shakespeare.

But there is a craft to his writing.

No, you'd have to give a certain amount of credit.

I would say... I like Shakespeare.

Adrian!

It's not like it's not Shakespeare.

It's following formulaic dramatic prose.

It's following specific beats that you put down there.

It works in that format.

I will say as well...