Dave Hanratty

Jackman's sort of identifying kind of a low mood in Irish rugby, even though Six Nations went well.

And he put it down really to the number of players losing.

He talked about that we're losing from the provinces.

He talked about a net loss of 17 players from the provinces this summer.

Angus Bell, Werner Koch, Sean Cline, Tucker Abrams, Niall Scannell, John Ryan, Joe Joyce, Jack Carty, Dennis Buckley, James Lowe, Luke McGrath, Rico Ioane, Ravis Lamani,

And a good chunk of them not being replaced or being replaced by Academy prospects.

And Jackman added, we don't hear much from the IRFU in terms of what the vision for the game is.

That's not ideal.

David Humphries replaced David Nusifora.

The last time he did a press briefing was before the Lions tour.

And to be fair, David Noosterford wasn't like knocking on the media's door either.

But do you agree with Jackman this sense that you've never seen the mood as low amongst Irish fans?

Is that grim out there?

I spoke to someone who has a good sense of the Leinster Academy and they're worried.

To be fair, Ulster, I know it unravelled.

But in the main, you'd say it was a really good, exciting season.

So actually, ironically, Ulster and Connacht, they're more than holding up their end of the bargain right now.

Sorry, I interrupted you.

Apologies.

Because I was reading of their 15,000 season tickets for the Leia Arena, the RDS.