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Dave Hone

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2536 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

Mm-hmm.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And we can't sex them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And lo and behold, this is what you get with the gharials.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

The really big males are obvious because they're so much bigger and they've got this big depression in the snout.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

But medium-sized and big females look like medium-sized or smaller males and very small males.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And so, yeah, that's basically what we have with dinosaurs.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

Even with Protoceratops, where we've got a data set of like 100...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

papers have come out saying there's very mild sexual dimorphism or there isn't sexual dimorphism.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

Sexual dimorphism could be very strong in Protoceratops, but we can't find it because we can't tell the males from the females because we haven't ID'd enough through something like medullary bone.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And so you're in this horrible situation where, because going back to the T-Rex thing is like, well, maybe it's mutual sexual selection and therefore they're cooperating.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And that would be cool.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

But also maybe males are much bigger, but we can't tell because our data set's too small.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

In which case they're not under mutual sexual selection and we've got it all wrong.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

It's maddening because it's so, if these were living animals, you just watch them or you just genotype them or you sex them and you just know.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And we just don't.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

But on the other hand, we do have the mechanism to do it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

There are a handful of places where you get a bunch of predaceratops together, where it's a mass mortality site.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

Well, let's go and drill every bone.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

Because if that's the breeding season, we might find seven or eight females, and then the others are pretty much by default males, if we know it's the middle of the breeding season, because all the others have medullary bone.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And now you know where your male-female split is.