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Dave Hone

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2536 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

So you'll get one set of footprints, and then a couple of hours later, a male will come past, and a couple of hours later, another male will come past.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And now you've got three sets of footprints all traveling in the same direction on the same bit of path, but they live on their own, let alone hunting together, which is a massive step above this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And then the one I've talked about quite a bit in my book is Spotted Hyena, Krakuta Krakuta, which is the one, there's a whole bunch of hyenas, but this is the one everyone knows.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

They're the big laughing hyena.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And can see plenty of Attenborough type documentaries of them, seven or eight of them, or even 10 or 12 of them going into a herd and ripping apart wildebeest or zebra or whatever it is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

But actually, if you read the scientific literature, this is really rare.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

They mostly hunt on their own.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

Now, they do live in these social clans with hierarchies and complex social interactions.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

They are very social animals, but they mostly hunt on their own.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

So even if you find loads of trackways of them moving together, or again, there's one, if not two, for tyrannosaurs.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

We've got multiple tyrannosaurs together, and that's been argued for pack hunting.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

At best, that argues they might have lived together, but it doesn't tell you whether or not they hunted together.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

So how can we make a decision on one way or the other?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

So, I mean, I tend to be ultra conservative in this context, and I think we should probably avoid saying things that we're not quite confident about.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

I don't want to ever go down the, we must have really definitive 100% convincing evidence because this is paleo and we don't have that kind of data.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

But...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

just as I talked about with things like the predator prey size ratio stuff, there is data we can start to use on living species about what tends to trigger hunting in groups or living in groups and what data there might be from stuff like brain sizes or other track ways.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

Or again, we do have bite marks indicating prey size.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

If you start finding repeated attacks on big prey,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

from relatively small predators, that would be quite convincing.