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Dave Hone

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2536 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

So anyone who keeps little fish, if anyone's who's a tropical fish keeper, swordtails are really quite common little tropical fish that you can get in all kinds of aquarium shops.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And they're a very boring fish shape, but the lower lobe of their tail has a big spike on it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And that's the name.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And they're really close relatives of a group called the Mollies, which basically don't have that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And in the wild, these are Amazonian fish.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

They don't usually encounter each other.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

But even if you go and get not even the domesticated form, because these things have been bred for decades at this point, you can go and get some wild Mollies and give them a wild male swordtail.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And they think he's so much better than all the male Mollies.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

They will go for that one and they will preferentially mate with that one.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

We don't know the exact mechanism, but it appears to be it looks similar enough that I recognize it as a potential mate, but different enough that this is exciting.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And then this is where the sexy sons kick in because the females are now assuming those animals are successful and they can hybridize.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

Or maybe it's just a male who just happens to be a little bit blue or a little bit red or whatever it may be.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

Um, well, the female offspring, the daughters are probably going to inherit mother's preference.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

I really like red and the males are probably going to have red in them because their dad had more red.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

So guess what the next generation does?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

It's more red and the females like more red and you don't have to come back much further.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And suddenly all the males are bright red.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

And that's closer to beauty than I think almost anything else would be with still a naturalistic explanation.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

Yeah, a T-Rex might have.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#480 โ€“ Dave Hone: T-Rex, Dinosaurs, Extinction, Evolution, and Jurassic Park

So the very fact that they have these apparently socio-sexually selected signals, the little crest and stuff in the head...